Joanna Penn is the author of action-adventure thriller novels Pentecost and Prophecy, in the ARKANE series. Her blog, The Creative Penn, was voted one of the Top 10 blogs for writers and helps people write, publish and promote their books. Joanna lives in London, England and is on twitter @thecreativepenn
1. Your books use aspects of religion as the basis for their stories. How have readers reacted to that?
I am personally fascinated by religion and actually have a Masters degree in Theology so I have studied in depth. It’s been a continued interest of mine and I’ve read and travelled widely to learn more. I find that religious story and myth are already deeply rooted in our society and that resonates with people even if they don’t believe in a specific faith.
From a commercial perspective I think Dan Brown’s Da Vinci Code was so popular because it connected with something people already knew about. So I wanted to tap a similar theme, taking religious ideas and using them as the basis for action-adventure thrillers.
Generally, people have taken the religious aspects as entertainment and also some education as I try to use real places and existing objects. Prophecy features the Devil’s Bible which is actually a real medieval book, and Pentecost involves a search for the bones of the Apostles, again based on truth.
I have the greatest respect for believers but at heart, I am writing fiction. Some people think the books aren’t Christian enough but I want to entertain and make you think. No preaching, more action!
2. Some of your reviews have said you write like a man because you focus on action/ adventure and have some violent scenes. What do you think of this gender bias for thriller/ action-adventure books?
Amusingly, these comments have come from people who ‘know me’ from my blog. I am a happy, positive, upbeat person, passionate about creating and writing and I’m always smiling on my videos and podcasts. It seems a long way from burning a nun alive on the banks of the Ganges at Varanasi (Pentecost) or sacrificial murder in the bone church of Sedlec in the Czech Republic (Prophecy). But I don’t think the two are incompatible and my books are still definitely thriller, rather than horror.
It’s the writer’s responsibility (and joy) to investigate the things at the edge of what’s acceptable in society. It’s also important to deliver on the promise to the reader and thrillers are always high stakes, fast paced romps. Body count is mandatory. I write what I love to read and so there needs to be plenty of bodies.
In saying all that, I’m actually reinventing myself as J.F. Penn in order to take advantage of being gender neutral to avoid these types of comments! There is also some evidence that male readers prefer male writers so going with initials instead of the full name is often something female thriller writers do in order to level the field. Think CJ Lyons, MJ Rose, JT Ellison and more.
3. Your books race through amazing global locations including famous churches and creepy ossuaries. Have you been to all these places and what’s your obsession with scene setting?
Travel is one of my obsessions and I have been to a lot of the places I write about over the last 20 years. Jerusalem in particular is a muse for me and I’ve been there 11 times. It’s woven into both thrillers and will return again. Certainly I’ll be needing another research trip there soon!
In writing my books, I actually start with the idea and then look at places that resonate with the theme. When I was gathering ideas for Prophecy, I went to the Paris catacombs and I knew that bones and ossuaries would be a great atmospheric thread. It turned out that the Devil’s Bible had been kept at the bone church of Sedlec in the middle ages and then I found the mummy crypt of Palermo in Sicily, both awesome locations.
As a reader, I love to learn about new places and descriptions of setting make a difference to the atmosphere of the book. In the writing process, I often plot the book by location rather than by plot on the first pass. One of the important elements for action-adventure is the movement and pacing so fantastic scene locations are critical, and amazingly fun to write!
4. You also use a lot of art history in the books. How do you bring these layers into what is a fast paced story?
My muse is European and I love to bring the layers of religion, architecture, history and art into the books. Again, it’s about learning as well as experiencing as you read. In Prophecy, art history became more of a dominant theme. Morgan Sierra, the protagonist, has to research how the apocalyptic imagery of the Four Horsemen might have been passed down. I could therefore indulge my passion for William Blake (also widely used by Thomas Harris in Red Dragon and the Hannibal Lecter books).
I also like to set expectations for my readers and have little surprises for those people interested in art history as I am. The Director of ARKANE always has a painting in his office. In Prophecy, it’s Salvador Dali’s Christ of St John of the Cross which is one of my favorites. Using art is all about resonance and deepening the experience of the book.
5. Joe Konrath recently came out with an article questioning the value of publicity. What have you found works for book marketing?
I do agree that marketing fiction is different to non-fiction. My first novel, Pentecost, has sold over 16,000 copies which is much more than could be accounted for by my personal platform. Those sales came from Amazon marketing it which in turn was based on rankings over time, the right category and reviews, all of which Konrath cite as more important that blogging or PR.
However, I believe the initial impetus for my sales came from my launch process, review gathering and continual marketing which have kept the ball rolling over almost a year now. My site, The Creative Penn, is for writers, not readers, but I also have a business associated with that and I’m more of an author-entrepreneur. I speak and sell online courses as well as consult with people so my income is not just from fiction, as Joe’s is. As I write more books, the focus will shift but for now, I need multiple income streams.
People who are starting out in indie publishing should definitely focus on the basics first. Write a good book, then pay for a great cover and professional editing. But getting reviews can often be easier if you have already started building a platform. I do now have JoannaPenn.com which is aimed more at my fiction readers and I’ll be building that over time. But we rarely find out how people hear about our books so I guess we all just have to keep trying!
6. Your blog, The Creative Penn was recently voted one of the Top 10 blogs for Writers on Write To Done. What’s the best thing about blogging for you?
Blogging changed my life! Seriously. I spent many years being blocked creatively and not writing. Blogging for the last 3 years has enabled me to
- Write regularly on different subjects and become faster and more confident at creation
- Connect with amazing, like-minded people who have given me confidence to write. I do a weekly podcast which is an interview with a writer/ publisher/ book marketer. I did one with Sean last year on writing serialized fiction.
- Create a business that enabled me to leave IT consulting to become an author-entrepreneur.
- Help other people by sharing lessons learned along the way
- Create a foundation for my fiction platform as at least some of my blog readers enjoy my fiction as well
It’s best to go into blogging with a goal other than making money though. Sharing what you learn along your personal journey is a popular way to start. It takes a lot of time and effort to build but it’s definitely worth it!
7. Why did you self-publish your books and what are your goals for your career?
Four years ago I wrote a career change book, How To Enjoy Your Job…Or Find A New One. It was the book I needed to write to unblock a lot of things in my own life and it started me down the road I’m now on. I did query that book and received one rejection. I didn’t like the negativity that surrounded the process so I was determined to do it myself. That’s when I started to learn about self-publishing and everything indie.
So when I decided to write fiction, I didn’t even consider traditional publishing. I know what I can do on my own and I believe that it’s better to attract attention through great sales, than to go ‘cap in hand’ and beg for it. I like the Hocking, Locke and Konrath models where they were offered deals after creating success themselves. Konrath is publishing with Amazon directly now which would definitely be the best outcome in terms of what sales they can achieve with the global platform. So my goals are to continue to write great fiction and indie publish for now and see what happens. I’m not chasing a book deal and I love the empowerment and freedom to create indie gives us!
8. Your book Prophecy has just come out. Tell us more about it.
Here’s the blurb:
The prophecy in Revelation declares that a quarter of the world must die and now a shadowy organization has the ability to fulfill these words. Can one woman stop the abomination before it’s too late?
From the catacombs of Paris to the skeletal ossuaries of Sicily and the Czech Republic, Morgan Sierra and Jake Timber must find the Devil’s Bible and stop the curse being released into the world before one in four are destroyed in the coming holocaust. Because in just seven days, the final curse will be spoken and the prophecy will be fulfilled.
My novels have been described as Dan Brown meets Lara Croft with a splash of Indiana Jones. Prophecy is the 2nd in the ARKANE series. If you like an impending apocalypse with a race against time to stop a curse reaching mankind, you’ll enjoy the book. It has 16 reviews averaging 4.5 stars on Amazon right now and is $2.99. It can be read as a stand-alone novel but the prequel Pentecost is only 99c on the Kindle if you fancy trying it out as well.
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Joanna Penn writes about writing and publishing at The Creative Penn. You can follow Joanna on twitter @thecreativepenn





